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		<title>By: Gay Parents</title>
		<link>http://www.taxgirl.com/hey-congress-why-dont-you-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-26277</link>
		<dc:creator>Gay Parents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Appreciating the time and energy you put into your site and in depth information you provide. It&#039;s great to come across a blog every once in a while that isn&#039;t the same outdated rehashed information. Fantastic read! I&#039;ve bookmarked your site and I&#039;m adding your RSS feeds to my Google account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appreciating the time and energy you put into your site and in depth information you provide. It&#8217;s great to come across a blog every once in a while that isn&#8217;t the same outdated rehashed information. Fantastic read! I&#8217;ve bookmarked your site and I&#8217;m adding your RSS feeds to my Google account.</p>
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		<title>By: Queercents &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Queercents Weekly Roundup</title>
		<link>http://www.taxgirl.com/hey-congress-why-dont-you-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-12027</link>
		<dc:creator>Queercents &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Queercents Weekly Roundup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Girl has a great post on the tax aspects of gay marriage. Thanks Helen! (Read it at Tax [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Massachusetts Divorce Law Monitor</title>
		<link>http://www.taxgirl.com/hey-congress-why-dont-you-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-11997</link>
		<dc:creator>Massachusetts Divorce Law Monitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Tax miscellany...&lt;/strong&gt;

Hi There, Since quarterly taxes are due now, the IRS is on my mind, and so I thought that a post on taxation might be apt. The tax implications of divorce is an area where questions come up consistently. Taxes......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Tax miscellany&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Hi There, Since quarterly taxes are due now, the IRS is on my mind, and so I thought that a post on taxation might be apt. The tax implications of divorce is an area where questions come up consistently. Taxes&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Day</title>
		<link>http://www.taxgirl.com/hey-congress-why-dont-you-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-11777</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelly,  maybe your husband and father are &quot;too close&quot; to tell.  I realized as soon as I had made the posting, I goofed (yes I know I am sometimes human and can error, we &quot;all fall short....&quot;).  Would be interesting to know why when I post various things on various blogs, virtually @ no time no one comes back and shows where I am in error?

At least  Mike came back and challenged one small remark I made.  As to that, it is my understanding the Scriptures tell us to &quot;marry and multiply....&quot;

The dialogue concerning marriage outside a man and woman was not started by me.  I challenged someone&#039;s argument, and then it stops?  Why?  Am I or am I not correct that if two homosexual men should legally be allowed to &quot;Marry&quot; then under the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment, athough I am already married my wife and I should be able to marry together another person.  Why would someone else think their marriage is in jeopardy because my wife and I are also perverted?

It is not that unusual for two sisters that have never married to live together.  It is not that unusual for two sisters whose husbands have died to then live together.  Why shouldn&#039;t they be able to marry?

When, where does this mockery of marriage stop?

In the completely seperate discussion concerning divorces and the children.  I maintained that there are too many divorces, where the divorced couple, knowing no better and relying on the lawyers,  have divorce decrees that are terrible.  Writing a divorce decree allowing the parents to alternate on a tax return a child leads me to believe the only thing worse than the legal advice the lawyer gives is the reliance of his/her own ability to prepare their own tax returns.  Why is it wrong to not have a discourse concerning that since someone else brought the subject up and I only responded?

Jeff Day EA
Evansville, IN  (this is labor day, spending today&#039;s @ wife&#039;s sisters in Ft Worth.  Next few days will be @ Dallas IRS forum) Think I can find anyone to argue with?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelly,  maybe your husband and father are &#8220;too close&#8221; to tell.  I realized as soon as I had made the posting, I goofed (yes I know I am sometimes human and can error, we &#8220;all fall short&#8230;.&#8221;).  Would be interesting to know why when I post various things on various blogs, virtually @ no time no one comes back and shows where I am in error?</p>
<p>At least  Mike came back and challenged one small remark I made.  As to that, it is my understanding the Scriptures tell us to &#8220;marry and multiply&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>The dialogue concerning marriage outside a man and woman was not started by me.  I challenged someone&#8217;s argument, and then it stops?  Why?  Am I or am I not correct that if two homosexual men should legally be allowed to &#8220;Marry&#8221; then under the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment, athough I am already married my wife and I should be able to marry together another person.  Why would someone else think their marriage is in jeopardy because my wife and I are also perverted?</p>
<p>It is not that unusual for two sisters that have never married to live together.  It is not that unusual for two sisters whose husbands have died to then live together.  Why shouldn&#8217;t they be able to marry?</p>
<p>When, where does this mockery of marriage stop?</p>
<p>In the completely seperate discussion concerning divorces and the children.  I maintained that there are too many divorces, where the divorced couple, knowing no better and relying on the lawyers,  have divorce decrees that are terrible.  Writing a divorce decree allowing the parents to alternate on a tax return a child leads me to believe the only thing worse than the legal advice the lawyer gives is the reliance of his/her own ability to prepare their own tax returns.  Why is it wrong to not have a discourse concerning that since someone else brought the subject up and I only responded?</p>
<p>Jeff Day EA<br />
Evansville, IN  (this is labor day, spending today&#8217;s @ wife&#8217;s sisters in Ft Worth.  Next few days will be @ Dallas IRS forum) Think I can find anyone to argue with?</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,

This was a guest post written by another attorney, Gideon Alper, and not me, as part of my series while I was on vacation.

For the record, I encourage all points of view on my site and I posted all guest submissions that were relatively on topic (a few submissions did not address the core question of &quot;What would you say to Congress?&quot;).

And for what it&#039;s worth, I&#039;m glad that you think you have me figured out when it comes to politics - neither my husband nor my father have! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>This was a guest post written by another attorney, Gideon Alper, and not me, as part of my series while I was on vacation.</p>
<p>For the record, I encourage all points of view on my site and I posted all guest submissions that were relatively on topic (a few submissions did not address the core question of &#8220;What would you say to Congress?&#8221;).</p>
<p>And for what it&#8217;s worth, I&#8217;m glad that you think you have me figured out when it comes to politics &#8211; neither my husband nor my father have! <img src='http://www.taxgirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mike Piper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Piper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, two thoughts:

a) You seem to be missing the fact that this post was not authored by Kelly.

b) Since when is the point of marriage to procreate? What is your basis for such a statement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, two thoughts:</p>
<p>a) You seem to be missing the fact that this post was not authored by Kelly.</p>
<p>b) Since when is the point of marriage to procreate? What is your basis for such a statement?</p>
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		<title>By: 2Dinternational &#187; Hey Congress, Why Don&#39;t You…? Gay Marriage &#124; taxgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>2Dinternational &#187; Hey Congress, Why Don&#39;t You…? Gay Marriage &#124; taxgirl</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Jeff Day</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelly you said:  We try to maximize the tax benefit and use it in a way that reduces overall income tax liability to maximize the dollars that exist to benefit the now-separated family.”

Can we really discuss this sometime?  Most divorces that we tax preparers see in Southern Indiana proves what you wrote there is a blatant lie.  Let&#039;s pretend that parents have two children, almost alway&#039;s the divorce decree says something like:  they have joint custody and each parent claims one child on a tax return.   One child?  They have joint custody and each parent alternates years on a tax return.  Three children, they each take a child each year and the third child each parent on alternating years.

Those lawyers and those judges should be forever barred from practising law when it comes to divorces and claiming children on tax returns etc.   The amounts of monies and the amount of hell those parents go through the following years are so dramatic beyond belief.  All because the lawyer wants it neat and simple for him/her the lawyer.

Jeff Day  (aren&#039;t you really glad I read this posting?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelly you said:  We try to maximize the tax benefit and use it in a way that reduces overall income tax liability to maximize the dollars that exist to benefit the now-separated family.”</p>
<p>Can we really discuss this sometime?  Most divorces that we tax preparers see in Southern Indiana proves what you wrote there is a blatant lie.  Let&#8217;s pretend that parents have two children, almost alway&#8217;s the divorce decree says something like:  they have joint custody and each parent claims one child on a tax return.   One child?  They have joint custody and each parent alternates years on a tax return.  Three children, they each take a child each year and the third child each parent on alternating years.</p>
<p>Those lawyers and those judges should be forever barred from practising law when it comes to divorces and claiming children on tax returns etc.   The amounts of monies and the amount of hell those parents go through the following years are so dramatic beyond belief.  All because the lawyer wants it neat and simple for him/her the lawyer.</p>
<p>Jeff Day  (aren&#8217;t you really glad I read this posting?)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Day</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vinny, You are not only on the money but it brings up another thing about it, I didn&#039;t originally think about.   A person can not deduct alimony and the alimony is not taxable to the custodian parent unless the non-custodian parent is &quot;FULLY&quot; paid up on child support.   I have had more than a couple times where a father tried to get the mother (custodial parent) to pay taxes on his payment which then would have adversely affected her earned income credit,  she still didn&#039;t have any taxable income.   There are lots of times where the non-custodial parent claims alimony but the custodial parent still has no taxable income.  

Just think if I am a custodial parent divorced from a woman and then &quot;marry&quot; a man and the mother is paying child support to help the family that the homosexual left the mother for and now they get &quot;divorced&quot; should the father now get alimony payments from the other?

The only reasonable conclusion to this quagmire is for the US to reverse it&#039;s trend to destroying &quot;the family&quot; and support the family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vinny, You are not only on the money but it brings up another thing about it, I didn&#8217;t originally think about.   A person can not deduct alimony and the alimony is not taxable to the custodian parent unless the non-custodian parent is &#8220;FULLY&#8221; paid up on child support.   I have had more than a couple times where a father tried to get the mother (custodial parent) to pay taxes on his payment which then would have adversely affected her earned income credit,  she still didn&#8217;t have any taxable income.   There are lots of times where the non-custodial parent claims alimony but the custodial parent still has no taxable income.  </p>
<p>Just think if I am a custodial parent divorced from a woman and then &#8220;marry&#8221; a man and the mother is paying child support to help the family that the homosexual left the mother for and now they get &#8220;divorced&#8221; should the father now get alimony payments from the other?</p>
<p>The only reasonable conclusion to this quagmire is for the US to reverse it&#8217;s trend to destroying &#8220;the family&#8221; and support the family.</p>
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		<title>By: Gideon Alper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gideon Alper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good point, Vinny. Certainly, a lot of socially desirable behavior receives no favorable tax treatment. I used deductible alimony payments as an example, but there&#039;s several behaviors relating to marriage and divorce that receive favorable tax treatment that won&#039;t apply to gay couples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good point, Vinny. Certainly, a lot of socially desirable behavior receives no favorable tax treatment. I used deductible alimony payments as an example, but there&#8217;s several behaviors relating to marriage and divorce that receive favorable tax treatment that won&#8217;t apply to gay couples.</p>
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