Comments on: taxgirl is a hypocrite http://www.taxgirl.com/taxgirl-is-a-hypocrite/ Paying taxes is painful... but reading about them shouldn't be. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:02:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: IMO http://www.taxgirl.com/taxgirl-is-a-hypocrite/comment-page-1/#comment-11659 IMO Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:04:11 +0000 http://www.taxgirl.com/?p=3829#comment-11659 IMO - There is a biiiiiig difference between someone who objectifies living creatures, repeatedly and knowingly subjecting them to pain and suffering, than say, a tax evader or someone who commits other types of crimes. I believe people can change with time and age, and or rehabilitation. In addition, I believe we need - at the least - to pay more rehabilatative attention to those who have committed certain types of crimes. As what is present (or missing) in them that allows them, for example, to commit and enjoy crimes of cruelty is more concerning. While we can all hope that Mr. Vick is a changed man - his comments to the press were hopeful - there are those whole pesky cruelty-to-creatures-only-a-small-step-to-cruelty-to-humans studies. With regards to Mr. Vick, I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'. IMO, cruelty is a complex mental pathology and at the least I hope that Mr. Vick continues to receive extensive and on-going therapy rather than a two-week "Pat the Bunny" course. Dogs are friends, not food - oops, that's a whole other can... I enjoy your blog! IMO – There is a biiiiiig difference between someone who objectifies living creatures, repeatedly and knowingly subjecting them to pain and suffering, than say, a tax evader or someone who commits other types of crimes.

I believe people can change with time and age, and or rehabilitation.
In addition, I believe we need – at the least – to pay more rehabilatative attention to those who have committed certain types of crimes. As what is present (or missing) in them that allows them, for example, to commit and enjoy crimes of cruelty is more concerning.

While we can all hope that Mr. Vick is a changed man – his comments to the press were hopeful – there are those whole pesky cruelty-to-creatures-only-a-small-step-to-cruelty-to-humans studies. With regards to Mr. Vick, I’m not sayin’, I’m just sayin’.

IMO, cruelty is a complex mental pathology and at the least I hope that Mr. Vick continues to receive extensive and on-going therapy rather than a two-week “Pat the Bunny” course.

Dogs are friends, not food – oops, that’s a whole other can…

I enjoy your blog!

]]> By: ThomasT http://www.taxgirl.com/taxgirl-is-a-hypocrite/comment-page-1/#comment-11584 ThomasT Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:11:26 +0000 http://www.taxgirl.com/?p=3829#comment-11584 On Vick, he has served his time, and that means he no longer has to surrender his freedom of movement to government authorities. It does not obligate any private employer to rehire him. He lied to his employer and many officials in the employer's industry. He engaged in gambling in direct violation of the terms of his employment. Any other employee in any other industry who similarly abused the trust of his or her employer would be dismissed and banned from rehire without a second thought, regardless of their presumed capacity to generate additional value for the employer. They would have a very hard time demonstrating to another employer in the same industry that they deserved another chance. They would likely have to change industries and start at the bottom. At a minimum, they would have to demonstrate some kind of track record of reforming themselves, not just state affirmatively that that is their intention. If Daniel Andersen applied for a paralegal opening at your firm, would you give him an interview? On Vick, he has served his time, and that means he no longer has to surrender his freedom of movement to government authorities. It does not obligate any private employer to rehire him. He lied to his employer and many officials in the employer’s industry. He engaged in gambling in direct violation of the terms of his employment. Any other employee in any other industry who similarly abused the trust of his or her employer would be dismissed and banned from rehire without a second thought, regardless of their presumed capacity to generate additional value for the employer. They would have a very hard time demonstrating to another employer in the same industry that they deserved another chance. They would likely have to change industries and start at the bottom. At a minimum, they would have to demonstrate some kind of track record of reforming themselves, not just state affirmatively that that is their intention.

If Daniel Andersen applied for a paralegal opening at your firm, would you give him an interview?

]]> By: Monica http://www.taxgirl.com/taxgirl-is-a-hypocrite/comment-page-1/#comment-11460 Monica Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:39:19 +0000 http://www.taxgirl.com/?p=3829#comment-11460 Like the group, I admire your willingness to admit your own failings, although in this case I don't think I'd call this a failing. I believe there's a big difference between giving someone a second chance and giving them carte blanche to repeat mistakes. We've got to have accountability worked in, and that's what I heard you saying -- not that you don't believe in rehabilitation. The challenge, of course, lies in finding the right place on the spectrum of justice/accountability and mercy. Like the group, I admire your willingness to admit your own failings, although in this case I don’t think I’d call this a failing. I believe there’s a big difference between giving someone a second chance and giving them carte blanche to repeat mistakes. We’ve got to have accountability worked in, and that’s what I heard you saying — not that you don’t believe in rehabilitation. The challenge, of course, lies in finding the right place on the spectrum of justice/accountability and mercy.

]]> By: My Journey http://www.taxgirl.com/taxgirl-is-a-hypocrite/comment-page-1/#comment-11400 My Journey Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:38:28 +0000 http://www.taxgirl.com/?p=3829#comment-11400 Taxgirl, I think recidivism differs by the person and the particular crime. You particuarly believed that Vick was rehabed and Anderson was not, and there is nothing wrong with that. Taxgirl,

I think recidivism differs by the person and the particular crime. You particuarly believed that Vick was rehabed and Anderson was not, and there is nothing wrong with that.

]]> By: Ron Hassett http://www.taxgirl.com/taxgirl-is-a-hypocrite/comment-page-1/#comment-11384 Ron Hassett Sun, 16 Aug 2009 19:20:30 +0000 http://www.taxgirl.com/?p=3829#comment-11384 Human emotions are contradictory under the best of circumstances and the last perfect person lived over 2000 years ago. Don't concern yourself over situations like this. What concerns me most about our criminal justice system is that there is little rehab, heavy punishment along with huge doses of survival tactics and then we expect them to return to society as a changed people. No wonder we have the highest incarceration and recividism rates of any other nation. Human emotions are contradictory under the best of circumstances and the last perfect person lived over 2000 years ago. Don’t concern yourself over situations like this. What concerns me most about our criminal justice system is that there is little rehab, heavy punishment along with huge doses of survival tactics and then we expect them to return to society as a changed people. No wonder we have the highest incarceration and recividism rates of any other nation.

]]> By: Chris http://www.taxgirl.com/taxgirl-is-a-hypocrite/comment-page-1/#comment-11383 Chris Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:58:08 +0000 http://www.taxgirl.com/?p=3829#comment-11383 I think there may be a difference here that you didn't mention. While both men went to jail and served time, Mr. Vick has admitted his mistake and wants to make amends. This other guy is jumping right back in to do what got him in trouble in the first place. Seems like someone hasn't learned his lesson. Secondly, more people are going to be relying on Mr. Andersen's advice than they would on anything Mr. Vick does (bettors not included). Mr. Andersen is advising people to break the law. I think there may be a difference here that you didn’t mention. While both men went to jail and served time, Mr. Vick has admitted his mistake and wants to make amends. This other guy is jumping right back in to do what got him in trouble in the first place. Seems like someone hasn’t learned his lesson.

Secondly, more people are going to be relying on Mr. Andersen’s advice than they would on anything Mr. Vick does (bettors not included). Mr. Andersen is advising people to break the law.

]]> By: Babs http://www.taxgirl.com/taxgirl-is-a-hypocrite/comment-page-1/#comment-11367 Babs Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:06:04 +0000 http://www.taxgirl.com/?p=3829#comment-11367 You are a stand -up girl and that is all that matters....Love you column... You are a stand -up girl and that is all that matters….Love you column…

]]> By: Sherra http://www.taxgirl.com/taxgirl-is-a-hypocrite/comment-page-1/#comment-11364 Sherra Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:01:29 +0000 http://www.taxgirl.com/?p=3829#comment-11364 Hi Taxgirl, I don't think that's a problem at all. Maybe it just means that you think one sort of crime is more serious than another or one is more amenable to rehabilitation than another. I happen to feel the same way - down with tax evaders! As for folks who run a dog-fighting ring...unsavory, but I don't find myself caring as much. Love your blog. Have a great weekend. Sherra Hi Taxgirl,

I don’t think that’s a problem at all. Maybe it just means that you think one sort of crime is more serious than another or one is more amenable to rehabilitation than another. I happen to feel the same way – down with tax evaders! As for folks who run a dog-fighting ring…unsavory, but I don’t find myself caring as much.

Love your blog. Have a great weekend.

Sherra

]]> By: Kay http://www.taxgirl.com/taxgirl-is-a-hypocrite/comment-page-1/#comment-11342 Kay Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:04:44 +0000 http://www.taxgirl.com/?p=3829#comment-11342 taxgirl, no worries. Football tends to skew everyone's way of thinking! But kudos for owning up to contradictory emotions and assessments of situations. It's hell being human sometimes, isn't it? ;-) I totally agree that once justice has been served, i.e., a legal sentence has been completed, a person has the right to re-enter society and resume his profession. I'm always amazed by humanity's penchant for eternal vindictiveness rather than appropriate punishment. And anybody that Tony Dungy stands up for has got to have a good shot at redemption. As a Cowboys' fan, though, I just hope that Vick has lost a little something during his time the clink! Kay taxgirl,
no worries. Football tends to skew everyone’s way of thinking! But kudos for owning up to contradictory emotions and assessments of situations. It’s hell being human sometimes, isn’t it? ;-)

I totally agree that once justice has been served, i.e., a legal sentence has been completed, a person has the right to re-enter society and resume his profession. I’m always amazed by humanity’s penchant for eternal vindictiveness rather than appropriate punishment.

And anybody that Tony Dungy stands up for has got to have a good shot at redemption.

As a Cowboys’ fan, though, I just hope that Vick has lost a little something during his time the clink!
Kay

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